Showing posts with label Digby. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Digby. Show all posts

27 June, 2015

A Little More on that Decision about Same-Sex Marriage

First, Digby has a good point about where this places the US, relative to the rest of the world.  Isn't that often the US leads the rest of the world on a progressive issue.



As for how we got here, I was just reading (okay, skimming -- those justices carry on and on and on) some of Robert's dissent, and I do tend to agree with him that this is a change that should have been legislated, and do tend to think that this will rankle with social conservatives much more and for longer than if this change had come about democratically.
When decisions are reached through democratic means,some people will inevitably be disappointed with the results. But those whose views do not prevail at least know that they have had their say, and accordingly are—in the tradition of our political culture—reconciled to the result of a fair and honest debate.
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By deciding this question under the Constitution, the Court removes it from the realm of democratic decision. There will be consequences to shutting down the political process on an issue of such profound public significance. Closing debate tends to close minds. People denied a voice are less likely to accept the ruling of a court on an issue that does not seem to be the sort of thing courts usually decide.
But I get the impression that he thinks, as other social conservatives always argue, that this should have been an issue for the states.  That this should have continued to be argued state by state, with that map above slowly filling in one state at a time.

And there I'd have to fundamentally disagree.  It's far too important for that.  It's a question, wherever you may fall on the issue, of human rights, and inevitably any progress would have been much slower, and much harder fought in...ahem, certain states than others.  And that map would have probably remained holed a good while longer, with all kinds of complications for those whose marriages would be allowed and recognised in some states and not others.

It really should have been decided legislatively, on the federal level, but maybe there was no chance of that happening with all the Tea Party-types in Congress.  We'll likely never know now.

Roe v. Wade and the ongoing fight over abortion may provide some insight into what the fallout will look like, and how conservatives may fight this in the years to come.  With that issue, despite what was taken as a decisive victory for abortion-rights, the conservatives have steadily chipped away over the years, such that it is now exceedingly expensive, impractical, time-consuming, and traumatic for women to obtain access to abortion-services in many states.

Then again, same-sex marriage isn't so emotive as abortion, and the divide is much more generational on this particular issue, with those opposed dwindling year by year.  So perhaps they'll accept it eventually...after an electoral cycle or two.

24 April, 2015

Press-release on TPP Fast-track Deal

Via Gaius Publius, more information on the fast-track deal for TPP (and other trade-deals ?) currently being rushed through Congress, from individuals far better informed and less sweary than myself: https://www.citizen.org/documents/press-release-fast-track-introduced-april-2015.pdf.

I skimmed it myself, but it does amongst other things seems to indicate that this abdication of responsibility by the US Congress on trade-deals could continue at least through the next presidency if not into the one after that, as indicated on her show recently by Rachel Maddow.  Hillary still seems oddly quiet on the whole thing, huh ?

13 April, 2015

In Defence of Dumbfuckery

Er, Digby...just why exactly would you assume the young lady in question is confusing  her 'pseudo-scandals' ?  And wait, is Watergate a 'pseudo-scandal' now or 'the greatest political scandal in American history' ?

Really, there's three questions to ask here:
  1. Was Hillary involved in the Watergate hearings ?
  2. Did Hillary lie at the Watergate hearings ?
  3. Is a self-confessed fan of Ted Cruz likely to care about the actual facts regarding 1 or 2 if they support a current right-wing meme ?
We could answer our first question with a quick trip to Wikipedia, but hey, 'anyone can edit Wikipedia' right ?  (Well, sorta...)  So how about a reference to oh, I don't know...The William J. Clinton Presidential Library say ?
After graduating from Wellesley College in 1969, Hillary entered Yale Law School where she met Bill Clinton. In 1974, at the height of the Watergate scandal, Hillary worked on the staff assisting the House Judiciary Committee with its investigation of the Nixon administration.
So, yeah.

Hillary Rodham (center), a lawyer for the Rodino Committee and John Doar (left), chief counsel for the committee, bring impeachment charges against President Richard Nixon in the Judiciary Committee hearing room at the U.S. Capitol in 1974 in Washington.

Short answer to our second question is that no-one knows for sure except perhaps Hillary.  But it does seem to be quite the right-wing meme that Hillary was fired from the Watergate hearings by Jerry Zeifman for lying, based on an article by one Dan Calabrese.  Snopes calls it False, and says that in fact Mister Zeifman had no authority to fire her (...but would if he could...), but it does sound like his recollections on the subject over the years have been changeable.
And again in 1998, Zeifman was undeniably quoted in a Scripps Howard News Service article as confirming that not only did he not "fire" Hillary, but that it was not even within his power to do so:
Jerome Zeifman, chief Democratic counsel on the House Judiciary Committee in 1974 ... does not have flattering memories of Rodham's work on the committee. "If I had the power to fire her, I would have fired her," he said.

So, she wasn't actually fired, and we certainly can't prove she lied, but that's not really important, because one guy said she's a liar...and...we get to link Hillary's name in a negative way to another famous political scandal.  Which leads us to...

Pregunta número tres.  Well, who are you going to believe ?  Snopes ?  'The Liberal Media' ?
Or Daily Kos...sorry, Fox News, Hot Air, Breitbart, and Rush Limbaugh ?

I think you already know the answer to that.  And you know what, Amber *Liberty Girl* is free to believe what she wants, even if that's that Vince Foster was murdered to prevent him talking about a secret deal with the UN to take away everyone's guns and/or a secret lesbian tryst between Hillary and Janet Reno.  And she's young, so she may yet one day evolve out of the right-wing media bubble.

Give her a chance maybe ?  After all, I'm making an awful lot of assumptions about her political background (as is Digby) based on a quick perusal of her Twitter feed.  It may be that she just genuinely doesn't trust Auntie Hill.  I don't blame her for that if that's the score.  I don't either.